Topic : STM32F2xx support..

Forum : ARM

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February 15, 2011 - 2:15pm
Guest

Hi Raisonance.

Will you in the future or perhaps next week support the new MCU's series ST32F2xx from ST?

Best regards,

Slynge

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February 15, 2011 - 2:41pm
Raisonance Support Team

Yes Sir!

We will release a new RKit-ARM early March, which will cover lots of new parts, including the STM32F2 series.

Best Regards,

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April 27, 2011 - 9:42am
Guest

Hi there all you nice people at Raisonance.

Now we're at the end of April and I'm looking forward for the support of the STM32F2xx-series. Is there an update to this?

Kind regards,

Slynge

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April 27, 2011 - 11:14am
Raisonance Support Team

Hi Slynge,

The new RKit-ARM is still not validated :/
If you are in trouble we can provide you with a Beta version, but the release should be at the end of next week anyway, so the best would be to wait until then.

Best Regards,

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May 20, 2011 - 9:07am
Guest

Is it avaliable now?

We are already over half of May, and I don't see it on raisonance page :(

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May 20, 2011 - 1:33pm
Raisonance Support Team

Hi,

It is not announced on the home page yet, but here you can get the new kits:
http://support-raisonance.com/extranet/tools/index.php?param=tool&tool_id=7

Don't forget to register the software, or it will stop working after 7 days.

Best Regards,

Vincent

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September 6, 2011 - 4:45am
Guest

VincentC wrote:
Don't forget to register the software, or it will stop working after 7 days.

Is there a crippled version that will work after 7 days? I just built a board using an STM32F205 and completely forgot that the version of Rkit I've been running for most of the last year might not support the new series.

Alternatively, is there a way to create a profile for the new chip that I'm using so that it will work under the old (crippleware) version of Rkit?

Thanks,
Sasha
Stanford Solar Car Project
http://solarcar.stanford.edu

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September 6, 2011 - 8:57am
Raisonance Support Team

Hi Sasha,

You can still use the old "crippled" RKit-ARM from last year for free, although you will not be under valid support from Raisonance.
Moreover, as you said, the STM32F-200 is not supported on the old RKit-ARM. You can use it to develop your F-200 application (that should not be too difficult), however it will not be possible to debug your application.

The best for you is to purchase an RKit-ARM support extension, which is cheap and which will let you have access to RKit-ARM Lite (latest version), along with free upgrades for 1 year. If you are interested, ask for a quote.

Best Regards,

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September 6, 2011 - 3:16pm
Guest

Bruno wrote:
Moreover, as you said, the STM32F-200 is not supported on the old RKit-ARM. You can use it to develop your F-200 application (that should not be too difficult), however it will not be possible to debug your application.

RFlasher also stops working after seven days as well. I can live without debugging capabilities but not without flashing capabilities.

Uninstalling the new version and reinstalling the old version produces an error that the demo period is over, despite the old version being freeware and the new version being installed yesterday. This seems like a bug.

Having to contact sales for a quote is usually a sign that I can't afford something.

I'll see what I can do in the mean time.

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September 6, 2011 - 3:49pm
Raisonance Support Team

s.zbrozek wrote:
Having to contact sales for a quote is usually a sign that I can't afford something.

In this case it's the opposite: you might be entitled to a free upgrade. (or discounted)

For example if you have purchased your RLink less than one year ago, or an Open4, or if you have a RLink-PRO (even an old one), and also in some other less frequent situations. (RLink-STD upgraded to PRO, RLink-PPC used for ARM, etc.)

But "contacting sales for a quote" is required for checking this. You don't want to pay for something you could have for free, do you?

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September 6, 2011 - 3:59pm
Raisonance Support Team

Just to show that we're not asking to "contact sales for a quote" because the price would scare people away. ;)

If you are sure that you are not entitled to free or discounted upgrade, you can get it here:
http://www.mcu-raisonance.com/index.php?&urllabel=1-year-support-extension-for-rlink-standard&alias=microcontrollers-home&insidefile=page-product.html&function=displayproduct&oid=T017:4m8i2wlgfh9q

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September 6, 2011 - 4:44pm
Guest

I already sent an email to the sales address. We'll see what they have to say.

Thanks for the heads up that some access to the tools comes with the purchase of an Rlink. I've gotten several over the last few years, the most recent being a little over a month ago and the next in a couple of weeks. That's very good to know.

It's good that there's a simple online form to purchase - I didn't find it when I did a flyby of the website hunting for pricing to calibrate my expectation for future ramen consumption.

My hope that there would be a simple hack to get the old tools (32KB debug limit is usually not a huge problem for me) to program the new chips didn't seem to work out so well. I replaced the HFARM.xml file from the old tools with the new ones as well as the sim folders, but that didn't seem to do the trick. Those files/folders are the only place where I found processor names while doing a string search of all the files in the Ride installation folder. Perhaps the list of supported processors is hardcoded or encrypted somewhere. Enough has changed between the old and new versions of Rkit-ARM that running diffs of the trees is not terribly fruitful.

On the bright side, I've had some luck with OpenOCD, Eclipse, and gdb.

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September 6, 2011 - 4:53pm
Raisonance Support Team

s.zbrozek wrote:
I already sent an email to the sales address. We'll see what they have to say.

Thanks for the heads up that some access to the tools comes with the purchase of an Rlink. I've gotten several over the last few years, the most recent being a little over a month ago and the next in a couple of weeks. That's very good to know.

You should specify them explicitly that you purchased an RLink less than one year ago, and that you are entitled to a free upgrade. Otherwise they might forget to ask. :rolleyes:

s.zbrozek wrote:
It's good that there's a simple online form to purchase - I didn't find it when I did a flyby of the website hunting for pricing to calibrate my expectation for future ramen consumption.

Yes, I'll ask that they make it more visible, along with the list of situations that give you the free upgrade. (which I did not find ;/ )

s.zbrozek wrote:
My hope that there would be a simple hack ...

You will not find a hack for this, simple or not, because we made sure that there is none. ;)

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September 6, 2011 - 5:02pm
Guest

Thanks for all the information! I'll be sure to mention my Rlink purchase to them.

Are there plans to support the new processors in the free version of Rkit-ARM at some point in the future? I'm not asking for unlimited debugging capability or any of the 'professional' features - just the ability to target the platforms and burn code to them with an Rlink.

I ask because I have a whole group of student volunteers who need to be able to write code for the solar car team. I can buy myself a copy to work with, but it's an unsustainable thing to do for 10-15 people who turn over every couple of months.

Thanks,
Sasha

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September 6, 2011 - 5:52pm
Raisonance Support Team

Hi,

There is no free version of the software any more. Recently we sadly found out that we would not be able to go on giving our work for free. Life is hard! :(

There is an old version from 2010, the last before before the new license system, that remains available for free but will never be updated. (no new devices, no new Windows, no bug fix, no support, etc.):
Ride 7.30.10.0169
RKit-ARM v 1.30.10.0356
(also true for the other kits, STM8, etc.)

However, for all later versions, after the new license mechanism, each RLink allows you to activate the software on several PCs. So if you have one or several RLinks, you only need one valid support contract to get the updates on as many PCs as you want. (and support)

So for a team of 15 people with 1 or more RLinks, even if they change their PCs (or their people) every week, it will still be €50 per year for the whole team using this link:
http://www.mcu-raisonance.com/index.php?&urllabel=1-year-support-extension-for-rlink-standard&alias=microcontrollers-home&insidefile=page-product.html&function=displayproduct&oid=T017:4m8i2wlgfh9q

This is all new to us too, so when contacting , (because you are entitled to have the first year for free) please make sure you tell them the complete list of Raisonance products that you have purchased, the specific "volatility" of your team, and include a link to this forum post.

Tell them also about your solar car. Seeing this nice project, it might be possible to reach an agreement for "PRO tools against advertising". I make no promise, I'm just the technical guy here, but it costs nothing to ask. ;)

Best Regards,

Vincent

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September 6, 2011 - 7:43pm
Guest

That's eminently not bad. I was really worried it was going to be thousands of dollars for a seat and really difficult to let it work with multiple users.

Also, you should make fun of your sales team - in the time you've responded several times on the public forum I have yet to hear anything back from them at all via email. You're running circles around them.

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September 7, 2011 - 11:09am
Raisonance Support Team

Well, you know how it is... you start by giving a hand to be nice and you end up doing everybody's job. ;)

Seriously, in fact it's the first time we explain this on the forum, so it was critical to make it clear and fast. And they helped me write the answers above. They just have tons of emails to answer.

Besides, I don't need this to make fun of them. Just look at Bruno's picture... :) :) :)